Youtube & https - doesn't work

[Petr]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxx - doesn't work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxx - works

[pepak]

YTD always uses HTTP. Is there any particular reason to use HTTPS? It can be done via an option.

[trodas]

YewTube by default use https links, so it should work (eg. start download) "as it is" ...  The YewTube link do work when https is changed to http, so it should be noproblemo.

However few times I already had a problem downloading video from YewTube and even it mostly was fixable by using the YewTube short link, todays I encuntered case, where this does not help - and nothing helped

Please fix.  The video is this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqMFGY1h_6s

Short link is this: http://youtu.be/GqMFGY1h_6s

...and neither one work in YTD at first try. When restarted, it worked and downloaded the video. I, of course, worry that the video will be gone soon, so downloading it is paramount.

[pepak]

Works fine, nothing to fix.

[trodas]

Not for us, obviously.
No matter what I do, I cannot download this vid, for example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7HrJbqYFVQ

It reports always only "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu." 

[pepak]

That's a problem on your computer - firewall or antivirus blocking YTD from accessing the net and so on. It might also be caused by a momentary non-responsiveness of the server. In any case, it can't be fixed by YTD.

[trodas]

I do not have antivirus, nor firewall (except a HW one in router) and things sometimes simply refuse to work at all  No idea why. Mostly it works, but there sometimes happen weird cases, where everything has to be shut down in order to get the video.

[trodas]

The error "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu" is getting worser and worser. Please, please fix!

It took like 20 attempts or more before the download start on YewTube and always - ALWAYS - YTD report the error ASAP - eg. there is NO WAIT AT ALL. Immediatelly it report "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu." ... There is NO WAIT. Not at all.

Please add there wait, allow YewTube to react, please!

[pepak]

The error "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu" is getting worser and worser. Please, please fix!

How? It doesn't appear on my systems. How do you propose that I locate the problem?

It took like 20 attempts or more before the download start on YewTube and always - ALWAYS - YTD report the error ASAP - eg. there is NO WAIT AT ALL. Immediatelly it report "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu." ... There is NO WAIT. Not at all.

That would be consistent with the theory that something in your computer is blocking YTD from accessing the net.

Please add there wait, allow YewTube to react, please!

The default timeout YTD uses is 30 seconds.

[trodas]

The error "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu" is getting worser and worser. Please, please fix!

How? It doesn't appear on my systems. How do you propose that I locate the problem?

Try using another computer. WinXP SP3 there. The problem is getting serious. VERY serious. To the point that starting download is next to impossible.

It took like 20 attempts or more before the download start on YewTube and always - ALWAYS - YTD report the error ASAP - eg. there is NO WAIT AT ALL. Immediatelly it report "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu." ... There is NO WAIT. Not at all.

That would be consistent with the theory that something in your computer is blocking YTD from accessing the net.

But there is not running ANYTHING at all. Nothing. No firewall, no nothing. I blocking adverts using hosts file:
http://ax2.old-cans.com/hosts.zip
...and that it is. How do you propose we check this idea of ours now?

Please add there wait, allow YewTube to react, please!

The default timeout YTD uses is 30 seconds.

There dreaded error kick in ALWAYS immediatelly. Now there is no way to start the download. No way at all.

Example of few videos my GF wanted to download for the music:


And - no go. No go at ALL. Always it show immediatelly the cursed error that it "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu"    Pls help!

[trodas]

And why, if this "other program is causing YTD to not acess network" is true, does these errors (after many, many retries) go away?



Since I have no Antivir or firewall, it does not make slightest sense...

[pepak]

Try using another computer. WinXP SP3 there. The problem is getting serious. VERY serious. To the point that starting download is next to impossible.

I am sorry to hear that, but I still don't know how to locate the problem. If you think I didn't try multiple computers, you are wrong.

But there is not running ANYTHING at all. Nothing. No firewall, no nothing. I blocking adverts using hosts file:
http://ax2.old-cans.com/hosts.zip
...and that it is. How do you propose we check this idea of ours now?

My theory is that you must be installing (possibly unconsciously) something into your system which acts this way. Install clean Windows, whatever version you like, but without any updates and patches, without any third party applications. Then try YTD.

There dreaded error kick in ALWAYS immediatelly.

Apparently the problem is not related to timeouts, but to the fact that YTD is not allowed to connect at all.

Example of few videos my GF wanted to download for the music:


And - no go. No go at ALL. Always it show immediatelly the cursed error that it "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu"    Pls help!

Only one link in the image shows a full URL. I tried it, and it downloads just fine on the first try.

[trodas]

Well, it is already established, that your computer(s) are quite abnormal, since the forum error with the email template is not happening to you, but to everyone else beside you it is (or it was - no error while these two posts had been made) happening.

So, that is for start. Now we got serious 

1) your explaination (there is a hidden bad program, that prevent YTD from network accessing) fail miserably to explain why in the end, the download IS started - so unless you come with better explaination that cover this "little" hole in your teory, then this teory is dismissed.

2) great that you try different computers, so do I and there you have video from the failure(s) in progress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbSgssehhXY
(it have a nice music at least)

Now I can say this: this behaviour of YTD is started happening few months back (never ever *EVER* before) and it is happening on WinXP SP3 machine, as well, as on WinXP SP1a machine... and as you can see on Win7 SP1 machine too, where I recorded the video above.
As you can see, in both cases the video started the download, so there is *NOTHING* that block YTD requests or net access. That is proven by downloading all but this the one video: http://youtu.be/_zHZSo4vC0I

Witch is somewhat unsupported ATM.

The Win7 SP1 is my GF machine and it is completely clean (besides few games, Firefox... and that mostly it is). No firewall or antivir on all tested computers. All are connected to the network behind a hardware firewall NetGear WGR614, but that it is. Port forwarding is only for my main machine and these are very very high ports that are used:
192.168.0.2 = 65335 - 65534

There are all the links, all in the end get downloaded but this first one not:
http://youtu.be/_zHZSo4vC0I
http://youtu.be/eVZ4ar-it0g
http://youtu.be/PdwmM3vyHfA
http://youtu.be/guXMb7zLblM
http://youtu.be/jWObTfiovD8
http://youtu.be/DeXoACwOT1o

...if you manage to DL it, pls upload it to ulozto or anywhere else and hit me with link to download it, because I have to go search for downloader that can DL it now


PS. discard that request, this page let me save the video easily: http://en.savefrom.net/
Hoooray, downloading now

[pepak]

Well, it is already established, that your computer(s) are quite abnormal, since the forum error with the email template is not happening to you, but to everyone else beside you it is (or it was - no error while these two posts had been made) happening.

Nonsense. You are mixing several separate issues.

1) YTD problem: My computer may well be abnormal, but it is a fact that YTD used to work fine for everyone and then, without any changes to the program because I didn't have time to work at it, suddenly stopped being able to connect to the net for many users. Which indicates that the problem lies outside YTD. The possible causes are numerous, but I consider the most likely one to be some Windows update. Another possibility is that YouTube.com started detecting YTD (e.g. by testing the User-agent string) and blocking it, but that is far less likely as it would stop everyone from being able to use YTD.

2) The e-mail template problem was related to the forum language users specified. It has been identified and fixed some time ago and reported as such in the relevant thread.

1) your explaination (there is a hidden bad program, that prevent YTD from network accessing) fail miserably to explain why in the end, the download IS started - so unless you come with better explaination that cover this "little" hole in your teory, then this teory is dismissed.

Whatever. Until I get a better theory, I will stick to this one.

2) great that you try different computers, so do I and there you have video from the failure(s) in progress:

And how does that help me in identifying the source of error? If you bothered to try the approach I suggested, you would be able to say that, e.g., "I get the error even with clean Windows XP SP3 Czech". I would then compare your link against my installation of the same version of Windows and notice that it works for me, which would suggest that perhaps it is not a problem related to Windows, but to the network. Or I would confirm the problem and would finally have a machine where I could experiment. But no, you know best - the way to find the problem is to post message after message until magically I decide to remove the bug.

and it is happening on WinXP SP3 machine, as well, as on WinXP SP1a machine...

This is a useful information. Not completely, because my clean install of Windows XP SP3 works just fine and I don't know what was installed into yours, so there is still a possibility of influence of some of your installed application, but much better than your previous reports.

As you can see, in both cases the video started the download, so there is *NOTHING* that block YTD requests or net access.

No, I don't see that. There is nothing in your video to indicate that the YTD's access to the net is unrestricted.

The Win7 SP1 is my GF machine and it is completely clean (besides few games, Firefox... and that mostly it is).

I find the "completely clean besides games, Firefox, etc." amusing. Clean means "in the state it was just after installation". Anything else is not conclusive.

No firewall or antivir on all tested computers.

Cleanly installed Windows contain an active firewall. Once again, you are misrepresenting the real situation - either you disabled the default firewall, in which case your system is not clean, or you didn't even consider it, in which case you can hardly claim that there is no active firewall on the computer.

http://youtu.be/_zHZSo4vC0I

The error message clearly says that this video uses an unsupported obfuscation scheme.

[pepak]

But I guess the user-agent detection theory is promising. I will provide an option for setting user-agent.