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Posted by trodas
 - May 06, 2015, 09:40:19 PM
I have to report, that after installing the OpenSSL 1.02 light, YTD started downloading from YouTube w/o and troubles. So I was right, that resintalling Windows have absolutely nothing to do with it. Switch to HTTPS did this...

So thanks for your patience  ;)

...now off to make it work on Win7 too...
Posted by pepak
 - March 28, 2015, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: trodas on March 26, 2015, 06:23:24 PMAfter update to v1.46 it is not possible to start YouTube download.
Works for me every single time. Make sure you have OpenSSL libraries in your path as those are required for HTTPS support.

QuoteIs not that weird at least?!
Sure. Especially considering that there was no change to the UI and the only change to YouTube support was that I switched from http to https...

QuoteAs for clear windows install - well, since there is NO PROGRAM AT ALL that behave in such weird/crazy way, then there will be absolutely no difference on absolutely fresh and clean Windows.
In other words, you didn't try and don't intend to try. Please don't post anymore, your reports are of no value whatsoever.
Posted by trodas
 - March 26, 2015, 06:23:24 PM
After update to v1.46 it is not possible to start YouTube download.
Interesting thing - when - after holding the space for some time - the program finally start to "Preparing the download", then clicking (LMB) anywhere else into the free parts of YTD window cause INSTANT change to "Paused" ...

Also clicking to any other window cause such error - instant "Pause."

Is not that weird at least?!

As for clear windows install - well, since there is NO PROGRAM AT ALL that behave in such weird/crazy way, then there will be absolutely no difference on absolutely fresh and clean Windows. I think that first the "Paused" bug, each time I click anywhere, should be eradicated first.
In current state, YTD cannot be used to download videos from YouTube, witch suxx a lot :(
Posted by pepak
 - February 08, 2015, 07:26:23 PM
You could start with my earlier suggestion and try how it behaves in cleanly installed Windows. That would provide reliable information.
Posted by trodas
 - February 07, 2015, 11:17:37 AM
How can I do to isolate it? Happens for me every time now. It was not happening when I start using YTD ... and then, after some updates, it start.

What can I test more that I already did?
Posted by pepak
 - February 02, 2015, 09:10:35 PM
Try to isolate it so that I can replicate it. Very little to be done about it otherwise.
Posted by trodas
 - February 02, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
Sorry for suspecting YTD from any wrongdoing in the 3h from 10h video case  ;)


On the other hand, YTD bug "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu" still exist. Sadly...  What can I do to help with killing it?
Posted by pepak
 - February 02, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: trodas on February 01, 2015, 12:28:03 PMDon't you just *love* it, when a simple GF request find out so stupid limitation of some program(s)?!
Quote...and hoooray! 10h done and working, no bug in YTD that cut the downloaded file to 3h exist. Ufff.
I was kind of expecting an apology, but what the hell...
Posted by trodas
 - February 01, 2015, 12:28:03 PM
Good idea. Just tested on WinXP SP1a machine and worked flawlessly... now lets try others...

On Win7 SP1 it does not work - untill so many tries, as you can see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gUZJNEV_is

(today is obviously "make damn f*cking lame booooooring videos" day)

Time for WinXP SP3 machine test.

...

Nope. It "seems" to increase my chances to exit all apps and stop the YewTube video from playing before exiting FF, but it still took many, many retry to get it started with the download.

Futhermore I have to report that there is a bug - only 3h 15min downloaded from 10h video!
http://youtu.be/EX1I2LI8Wc8

Damn. Same is happening using the http://en.savefrom.net/ website (webm format = fast download, no conversion)

So if you can download the whole file for audio extract, then pls reup it somewhere. Thanks!
It get only 1 119.2 MB from the file, witch decoded (FFMpeg) report 10h, but actually only 3h 15min of data are present (that is consistent of the video size, witch is why I mention it as bug) ...

Don't you just *love* it, when a simple GF request find out so stupid limitation of some program(s)?!


...and it did not look much better with other apps too, besides they *claim* to get full 10h, I have my doubts. I seen 10h in FFMpeg too, but then it show only few "frames" and ended up with only 3h of audio:
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/369930-Only-3h-15min-from-10h-YouTube-video


PS. done, strike that last "bug." Microsoft wav limitation was found to be 3h 15min.

Yea, that come from people who once claimed that 640k should be enought for everybody. Okay. Microsoft strikes again!

See the conversion w/o wav works well:
ffmpeg -i x.webm -acodec libmp3lame -b:a 128k x.mp3

...and hoooray! 10h done and working, no bug in YTD that cut the downloaded file to 3h exist. Ufff.
Posted by pepak
 - February 01, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
Another likely possibility is that, apparently, you start a video in your browser and then proceed downloading it in YTD. Thus you use two simultaneous threads for th eplayback of the same video, and if I were developing a video service, I would certainly check for that and permitted only one of the threads. Why don't you close your browser completely and THEN try to download with YTD?
Posted by pepak
 - February 01, 2015, 12:13:54 PM
But I guess the user-agent detection theory is promising. I will provide an option for setting user-agent.
Posted by pepak
 - February 01, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: trodas on February 01, 2015, 11:28:47 AMWell, it is already established, that your computer(s) are quite abnormal, since the forum error with the email template is not happening to you, but to everyone else beside you it is (or it was - no error while these two posts had been made) happening.
Nonsense. You are mixing several separate issues.

1) YTD problem: My computer may well be abnormal, but it is a fact that YTD used to work fine for everyone and then, without any changes to the program because I didn't have time to work at it, suddenly stopped being able to connect to the net for many users. Which indicates that the problem lies outside YTD. The possible causes are numerous, but I consider the most likely one to be some Windows update. Another possibility is that YouTube.com started detecting YTD (e.g. by testing the User-agent string) and blocking it, but that is far less likely as it would stop everyone from being able to use YTD.

2) The e-mail template problem was related to the forum language users specified. It has been identified and fixed some time ago and reported as such in the relevant thread.

Quote1) your explaination (there is a hidden bad program, that prevent YTD from network accessing) fail miserably to explain why in the end, the download IS started - so unless you come with better explaination that cover this "little" hole in your teory, then this teory is dismissed.
Whatever. Until I get a better theory, I will stick to this one.

Quote2) great that you try different computers, so do I and there you have video from the failure(s) in progress:
And how does that help me in identifying the source of error? If you bothered to try the approach I suggested, you would be able to say that, e.g., "I get the error even with clean Windows XP SP3 Czech". I would then compare your link against my installation of the same version of Windows and notice that it works for me, which would suggest that perhaps it is not a problem related to Windows, but to the network. Or I would confirm the problem and would finally have a machine where I could experiment. But no, you know best - the way to find the problem is to post message after message until magically I decide to remove the bug.

Quoteand it is happening on WinXP SP3 machine, as well, as on WinXP SP1a machine...
This is a useful information. Not completely, because my clean install of Windows XP SP3 works just fine and I don't know what was installed into yours, so there is still a possibility of influence of some of your installed application, but much better than your previous reports.

QuoteAs you can see, in both cases the video started the download, so there is *NOTHING* that block YTD requests or net access.
No, I don't see that. There is nothing in your video to indicate that the YTD's access to the net is unrestricted.

QuoteThe Win7 SP1 is my GF machine and it is completely clean (besides few games, Firefox... and that mostly it is).
I find the "completely clean besides games, Firefox, etc." amusing. Clean means "in the state it was just after installation". Anything else is not conclusive.

QuoteNo firewall or antivir on all tested computers.
Cleanly installed Windows contain an active firewall. Once again, you are misrepresenting the real situation - either you disabled the default firewall, in which case your system is not clean, or you didn't even consider it, in which case you can hardly claim that there is no active firewall on the computer.

Quotehttp://youtu.be/_zHZSo4vC0I
The error message clearly says that this video uses an unsupported obfuscation scheme.
Posted by trodas
 - February 01, 2015, 11:28:47 AM
Well, it is already established, that your computer(s) are quite abnormal, since the forum error with the email template is not happening to you, but to everyone else beside you it is (or it was - no error while these two posts had been made) happening.

So, that is for start. Now we got serious  ;D

1) your explaination (there is a hidden bad program, that prevent YTD from network accessing) fail miserably to explain why in the end, the download IS started - so unless you come with better explaination that cover this "little" hole in your teory, then this teory is dismissed.

2) great that you try different computers, so do I and there you have video from the failure(s) in progress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbSgssehhXY
(it have a nice music at least)

Now I can say this: this behaviour of YTD is started happening few months back (never ever *EVER* before) and it is happening on WinXP SP3 machine, as well, as on WinXP SP1a machine... and as you can see on Win7 SP1 machine too, where I recorded the video above.
As you can see, in both cases the video started the download, so there is *NOTHING* that block YTD requests or net access. That is proven by downloading all but this the one video: http://youtu.be/_zHZSo4vC0I

Witch is somewhat unsupported ATM.

The Win7 SP1 is my GF machine and it is completely clean (besides few games, Firefox... and that mostly it is). No firewall or antivir on all tested computers. All are connected to the network behind a hardware firewall NetGear WGR614, but that it is. Port forwarding is only for my main machine and these are very very high ports that are used:
192.168.0.2 = 65335 - 65534

There are all the links, all in the end get downloaded but this first one not:
http://youtu.be/_zHZSo4vC0I
http://youtu.be/eVZ4ar-it0g
http://youtu.be/PdwmM3vyHfA
http://youtu.be/guXMb7zLblM
http://youtu.be/jWObTfiovD8
http://youtu.be/DeXoACwOT1o

...if you manage to DL it, pls upload it to ulozto or anywhere else and hit me with link to download it, because I have to go search for downloader that can DL it now :(


PS. discard that request, this page let me save the video easily: http://en.savefrom.net/
Hoooray, downloading now :)
Posted by pepak
 - February 01, 2015, 07:12:33 AM
Quote from: trodas on January 31, 2015, 11:09:14 PMTry using another computer. WinXP SP3 there. The problem is getting serious. VERY serious. To the point that starting download is next to impossible.
I am sorry to hear that, but I still don't know how to locate the problem. If you think I didn't try multiple computers, you are wrong.

QuoteBut there is not running ANYTHING at all. Nothing. No firewall, no nothing. I blocking adverts using hosts file:
http://ax2.old-cans.com/hosts.zip
...and that it is. How do you propose we check this idea of ours now?
My theory is that you must be installing (possibly unconsciously) something into your system which acts this way. Install clean Windows, whatever version you like, but without any updates and patches, without any third party applications. Then try YTD.

QuoteThere dreaded error kick in ALWAYS immediatelly.
Apparently the problem is not related to timeouts, but to the fact that YTD is not allowed to connect at all.

QuoteExample of few videos my GF wanted to download for the music:


And - no go. No go at ALL. Always it show immediatelly the cursed error that it "Nepodařilo se stáhnout stránku informací o médiu"  >:(  Pls help!
Only one link in the image shows a full URL. I tried it, and it downloads just fine on the first try.
Posted by trodas
 - February 01, 2015, 01:37:46 AM
And why, if this "other program is causing YTD to not acess network" is true, does these errors (after many, many retries) go away?



Since I have no Antivir or firewall, it does not make slightest sense...